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For sure there are other references that might confuse today'sreader. The St. Ides peroration refers to Ice Cube's ad deal with thatbeverage, which as Chuck D recalls in his Fight the Powermemoir irked him especially because he'd just changed a song called "AMillion Body Bags" to "A Million Bottlebags" after concluding that"Black people drink malt liquor like it's going in style" in partbecause "Malt liquor has a higher alcohol content than beer, butbreweries usually won't reveal the ingredients on the labels."Dr. Frances Cress Welsing, who died in 2016, was a psychiatrist whoheld that whites were an inferior race who'd been driven out of Africamany ages ago. Molefi Kante Asante was and remains a leadingAfrocentrist philosopher and activist. "Anita" refers to soulballadeer and crooner Anita Baker. The long colloquy on homophobia inwhich Tate takes such an active role turns largely on the suffix"phobia," meaning irrational fear, which Chuck was hardly the onlystraight male of that time or indeed this one to regard as an insultto his courageous manhood. Rereading this conversation, I was struckby how very little interest Chuck evinces in not just romance butsex. But how sexist that does or doesn't make him seems moot--he hasalways been one of the rare rappers whose rhymes very seldom demeanwomen. It is very much worth noting that his wife of many years, GayeTheresa Johnson, is a Ph.D who teaches in the Black Studies departmentat UCLA.

CHUCK D: On this album. I might just bug out on the nextone. But when I bug out, it's going to hit 85 to 90 per cent of theplaces. It might not hit here [points to New York] at all. But give methe rest, I'll take it. Fear of a Black Planet was the mostsuccessful album we had--not because of all the hype and hysteria. Itwas a world record. Because of all the different feels and thedifferent textures and the flow it had, I can do it--get the samefeeling [more pointing] here, here, here, here, you know what I'msaying? Just in L.A., a kid is breaking down the rappers fromdifferent areas and he says, "Public Enemy, man, ain't even like y'allfrom New York. It's like y'all from somefuckingwhere--like, you'refucking everywhere." I say, "Well, we are from everywhere, and itreflects in our music, and it reflects in our lyrics, you know." I'm aperson--I ride on Greyhound through the middle. I ride Greyhoundthrough Arkansas and Arizona. I'll sit on Greyhound for hours justlistening to my music, look out the window and write, you know. Yo, Ijust drove--went down to Disneyworld. I could drive like--see, there'salways a job in the business. Let's say they say, "Chuck, you out ofthe business," man, I'll be a bus driver. I know the fucking roads,man.

CHUCK D: Well, sometimes I just like to go in my fuckingbasement and just fucking watch fucking TV or videotapes. I can'treally watch too many movies. I usually like watching sports. I watchsports, you know--

CHUCK D: 'Cause I see the fucking results of it. And you gotto have a structure in the society, in the school system, that's ableto say well, this is the right, and this is the wrong. We could saythat families are supposed to do it, but we ain't got family the wayit's supposed to be. So I mean, we've got to go to a school orstructure that can teach us family.

CHUCK D: I'm saying, you know, people have to be taught howto do certain things. And then, let's go back to the music, thepositive and the negative. A guy's going to talk negative shit becausethat's what he sees. Rappers only talk what they know. I mean,sometimes you've got people going off into the fantasy world, like theGeto Boys when they talk about mind playing tricks on me, Chuckie andstuff like that, and make analogies saying, well, you can't talk aboutme because, hey, all those fucking crazy movies coming out an nobody'sgetting any heat for that. But we have a double-edged sword hangingover our head, a guillotine, that's saying, well, we do this, we'regoing to be followed--you know, people going to do this shit inreality. And I believe that.

'Cause, I mean, everywhere I go, I mean, I go to prisons, and, youknow, brothers--if they get no guidance from zero to 16, they're goingto follow something that can relate to them best. And if something canrelate to them best that they really, really like, they're going tofollow it. They're going to say, "I got to kick this motherfuckertonight." Boom, boom, boom. And later on, they'll be like, "Damn,damn." Like that brother that got to go to the fucking joint now forkilling that Jewish guy. And ain't nobody fucking behind him now. Hegotta go to the fucking joint. He gonna get fried. Somebody didn'ttell him to put his brain in gear. Now he's gotta suffer theconsequences. I feel sorry for him. Because I've talked to a lot ofbrothers in jail and usually brothers in jail are in forimpulse. Boom!

That's why I started talking about the "1 Million Bottle Bags."Because I tell you a lot of shit be starting off because of distortedthinking like, damn, usually brothers that know each other, be likedrinking. They be like, "What you say?" "I ain't say shit, man." "Yourfucking mother." And then somebody got a fucking nine or Uzi in theterritory, and the shit escalate to even a higher pitch, couple ofpeople in there going, "Yo, just, chill, chill, chill." And sometimesyou get, you know, "Fuck that, motherfucker." And it all be startingup because motherfuckers is fucked up.

CHUCK D: Yeah, I mean I briefed it on him. You know, hesaid, "Yo, man, just trying to get out of it." Trying to stop it, buthe's contracted. I said, "Yo, Cube, hey, there ain't nothing againstyou, I mean, it's your thing, your guilt thing, but you should havehad quality control." The people at St. Ides said, "Well, we reallyrespect you Chuck D, you know." I told 'em I don't respect y'all, fucky'all. I see the results. I'm not just fucking reading stats. You'rein the black community, you can run, you can't hide. There ain'tnowhere you can go and live and say, well, I'm going to be far awayfrom it. Nowhere.

I'm seeing results whether it be Memphis, Houston, St. Louis,Chicago, Detroit--it could be the smaller fucking cities. I'll takeyou right in the 'Velt, Roosevelt--one square mile. Got 14 delis inthere, and every single deli got Ice Cube's poster. The people say,"Well, why do you give so much of a damn?" Because I've got to live inthis motherfucker. And I'm grown. Once you're over 18, fun and gamesgot to be put to number three. Responsibility and business got to beone and two and you can have fun and games and shit, but once youunderstand those number one and two things, you understand that funand games are being played on your ass. I tell motherfuckers in aminute, you can be hardcore and be positive. Thieves and pimps andmurderers, man, motherfuckers got to pay a penalty. The problem isthat some white boy coming in and trying to remedy the situation andwe need to start doing it ourselves. The more grown people you havethat understand they're adults and take control of their community,the less bullshit you have coming in. And you used to have somethinglike that until quote unquote so-called integration. 041b061a72


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